Before You Slam the Loudons for Reality TV Show, Watch This

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Our old friends John and Gina Loudon appear on ABC’s Celebrity Wife Swap this Thursday, March 28.

A lot of my friends have asked “what were they thinking?”

Dr. Gina explains what they were thinking:

 

 

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  • Ashke

    So I am confused…. Why were they too afraid to be at the round table, not give a statement, and why did Loudon feel he had the right to break the rules by calling his wife?

    • UnderGodNotGovt

      Considering the Envy family broke the rules by not following Gina’s rules during her week, I would say that there was no obligation on the Loudon’s part to follow the program’s rules either.

      • That’s a ridiculous line of thought. So every time one party breaks a ‘rule’, everyone else is under no obligation to follow agreements? Humph.

      • Jake_V

        Welcome to America, fool.

        …Oh and if I am not mistaken thats been the thought process of the left leaning party for at least the last two election cycles.

      • UnderGodNotGovt

        Yes, MG. That is correct. When one party to a contract breaches, the other party(ies) are no longer required to honor that contract. The contract is in default.

      • Don Davey

        The contract is with the show not each other. If you are going to rely on the law first read at least one book on tort law.

      • UnderGodNotGovt

        The agreement with the show included the format of having the first week managed iaw the home’s rules and the second with the visiting wife’s rules. Yes, John continued to preach but he contributed to the fund for the Envy wife’s pet charity as per her instructions. He was in full compliance since she offered the contribution as an option if he chose to continue to discuss religion or politics. The Envy husband, girlfriend and the children blatantly broke the rules and even lauged over doing so. It was clear they were not willing to listen to Gina – they used every opportunity to be confrontrational with her until the husband insisted that she leave and slammed the door behind her. The Loudon family appropriately contacted a lawyer because they needed to know their rights and obligations under the terms and conditions of the agreement. Their lawyer obviously saw that it was appropriate for them to forego any further activity with the show and advised them to withdraw without further comment or cooperation. Believe me, if ABC feels they can continue to harrass the Loudon family in a legal battle over the way they departed from the show, we will all hear about it in the coming weeks as they clearly are interested in bashing the Loudon family to the fullest extent possible.

      • The ‘contribution’ option was in the same essence of a swear jar. It’s to deter you from swearing or in this instance preaching, which is a sin in itself. God doesn’t want people to be preached into believing in him, people have to come to this conclusion of their own…..creating true believers, not hounded believers. The Koran has one line that I live by “Never knowingly break someone’s heart”. Can you honestly state that when John made her cry he did this ‘innocently’ and not knowingly being malicious towards her?

      • UnderGodNotGovt

        The contribution option was just that … an option. So, John was following the options given to him by the Envy wife when he chose that option over not preaching. If she didn’t want preaching, she should have said, No preaching. She thought she be clever and make him contribution $ to a gay organization if he couldn’t stop preaching. The Envy husband and children simply broke Gina’s rules … they did not make a contribution to a Christian organization, they just ignored the agreement completely. You mentioned the Koran. Do you follow the Koran? Do you kill infidels – which is commanded throughout the Koran. How is preaching to someone worse than killing them for not converting? If you pick and choose scripture as it suits you from various religions, why not just make up a religion of your own. That is what you are doing. You are not following God. You are doing what is right in your own eyes. That is what God says the people of Noah’s time and the people of Sodom and Gomorrah were doing just before He destroyed them in judgement.

      • John was abusing the ‘option’. The Envy family tried to give her a chance, at first, when it became obvious that she only offered ‘hate’ not love nor kindness, only then was she asked to leave, and quite frankly I don’t think you’d allow your young children to be told that Angels really look like demons, this would have been the point that I would have shown her the door, who gives little children nightmares? I’m not going to really comment on your ignorant, hateful, close-minded, racial slurs about Muslims or the Koran. If you are so curious about my personal religion I’ll tell you. Basically I believe that one should not be born into a religion, per say, one should educate themselves with all the religions and decide for ones self which religion makes the most sense to themselves. This way it’s a religion that you are not bullied into and the person is well educated on most (some) other religions therefor being more tolerant towards others. By the way, I have the right to see through ‘my own eyes’ and pick my religion, or should I do what YOU think? Reading your comment above I’m assuming you didn’t read the Koran. The only reason why I mentioned this line is because throughout my readings or research this was the one line that made complete sense to me. It says God is merciful towards your ignorance but not when it comes to malice behavior which is unforgivable. Sorry if it offended you and made you act with malice. I thought about this line and went through all the sins (or laws of man) and I couldn’t think of a single sin this did not cover, therefor I chose to live by this ‘rule’. I find it confusing when religion becomes a huge ‘industry’,( ie the Vatican, television evangelists, mainly the Christian religions), I mean the Vatican can end world hunger, so why don’t they? If you think of the wars that man has engaged in, how many were due to religion? Most of them. I would say it saddens me that you think that I’m going to be ‘destroyed by judgment’, but it’s not for the reason you think and you’ve made me not care about your judgment of me. I only answered so people could read my philosophy, thanks for the opportunity.

      • John was abusing the ‘option’. The Envy family tried to
        give her a chance, at first, when it became obvious that she
        only offered ‘hate’ not love nor kindness, only then was she
        asked to leave, and quite frankly I don’t think you’d allow
        your young children to be told that Angels really look like
        demons, this would have been the point that I would have
        shown her the door, who gives little children nightmares?
        I’m not going to really comment on your ignorant, hateful,
        close-minded, racial slurs about Muslims or the Koran. If
        you are so curious about my personal religion I’ll tell you.
        Basically I believe that one should not be born into a
        religion, per say, one should educate themselves with all
        the religions and decide for ones self which religion makes
        the most sense to themselves. This way it’s a religion that
        you are not bullied into and the person is well educated on
        most (some) other religions therefor being more tolerant
        towards others. By the way, I have the right to see through
        ‘my own eyes’ and pick my religion, or should I do what YOU
        think? Reading your comment above I’m assuming you didn’t
        read the Koran. The only reason why I mentioned this line is
        because throughout my readings or research this was the one
        line that made complete sense to me. It says God is merciful
        towards your ignorance but not when it comes to malice
        behavior which is unforgivable. Sorry if it offended you and
        made you act with malice. I thought about this line and went
        through all the sins (or laws of man) and I couldn’t think
        of a single sin this did not cover, therefor I chose to live
        by this ‘rule’. I find it confusing when religion becomes a
        huge ‘industry’,( ie the Vatican, television evangelists,
        mainly the Christian religions), I mean the Vatican can end
        world hunger, so why don’t they? If you think of the wars
        that man has engaged in, how many were due to religion? Most
        of them. I would say it saddens me that you think that I’m
        going to be ‘destroyed by judgment’, but it’s not for the
        reason you think and you’ve made me not care about your
        judgment of me. I only answered so people could read my
        philosophy, thanks for the opportunity.

      • Two weeks of show footage can hardly be told in 45 minutes. It is sad you didn’t get to see more of the less dramatic, more positive parts.

  • Jmadden

    I suspect that ABC did some “editing” on Wife Swap that showed favor upon the other family and made the Loudons look like right-wing fanatics.

    • Robert

      Huh? I think they would appreciate the fact that they looked like the Tea Party “fanatics” they are. Come on man…

    • Jake_V

      All good and agreeable until you clearly show your left leaning stance.

    • Jake_V

      Hi pot, meet kettle.

      You called someone close minded above and assert that her life style is a is terrible way to live life in this post.

      I believe that not only makes you a hypocrite, but also CLOSE MINDED.

    • Wrong, the other family did not “love” them from the get go either. Both were intolerant of the others views.

  • Jmadden

    I commend the Loudons for going on a show where they knew the deck was already stacked against them from the beginning. Way to go guys – don’t let the world change your beliefs. Stick to your guns – the Bible. It would have been nice to have seen you finish the show, but I am sure that there was a lot more going on behind the scenes with ABC and the other family that is not known at this point. Regardless, stay the course!

    • Jake_V

      I dislike anti-religious people as much, if not more than, religious people.

      The deck was clearly stacked against the right wing folks…its ABC for crying outloud.

      Are you really that dumb? You didn’t see the editing?

      I keep asking myself that on here and keep coming to the conclusion the answer for most of you is, unfortunately, a resounding YES.

  • Robert

    My point? You quote Leviticus and claim that you don’t want “blood” on your hands. What about the other things Lev commands you?

  • Jmadden

    Robert – it is obvious that you do not know the Lord. We are all imperfect, including the Loudons. But they tried. The point is that we strive for perfection using the Bible, the inspired Word of God, as our standard. We can never achieve it – hence the reason Jesus gave himself as a sacrifice for our imperfection. The book of Leviticus is under the old law. God never said slavery was correct. It is better summed up with what Jesus is as quoted as saying in Matthew 22:21 in regard to paying taxes: “give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God.” In other words, live according to the laws of your land during your time as long as it is not in conflict with the Word. Robert, I suggest that you do some soul searching about why you are here on this Earth. And the next time the Holy Spirit tugs at your heart, do not deny Him. You only get so many opportunities.

    • Jmadden

      aronmb23 – And… how do you support your claims? Come with facts if you are going to make statements like that. How old are you?

  • Wow, the editing in the bar was SO obvious. They made Gina look like a boozer getting drunk and then just throwing stupid statements out there. I know EXACTLY what Gina was saying—Yes, Obama is a Marxist, Yes, the gay population has more illness than the straight population—these are facts. The one thing that irks me is that when we (conservatives) have the opportunity to get the other side to learn, we drop the ball by acting superior. I try to let people say anything they want to, and then come back with facts to prove them wrong. If they don’t believe the facts, well, there’s nothing we can do about that. And there are plenty of leftists who don’t believe facts—you can’t have discussions with those types of people. They are in their own little world.

    • Jake_V

      Right…and that is because of what?

      You disagree?

      So because you disagree, someones else viewpoint is dumb?

      That implies you are at a child’s maturity level…like you can’t share a toy and get along….which implies you aren’t very educated.

      Interesting concept.

    • Jake_V

      How is that?

      Just because you make a comment doesn’t mean it’s true.

      I didn’t see anything close minded in the post. I happen to agree.

      ABC clearly edited the video in the bar…regardless of Gina’s over the top right wing ramblings.

      All of you folks who see this as a Cause célèbre as for your left leaning anti conservative view points are part of the issue with the USA.

      Not everyone on the right is a bible thumping fool. Not everyone on the left sleeps with more than one woman…

      Try doing some actual thinking for once…

    • bushphone

      You just throw accusations out there without any evidence to back them up, then you call them facts?

  • Jmadden

    Man, I am glad that we do not live under the old law any more. Aren’t you? Thank you Jesus!

    • bushphone

      John used it to preach to her on the show though.

      • UnderGodNotGovt

        To establish that under God’s standards for His creation, homosexual relations are sin. There is now forgiveness for all sin under the blood of Jesus Christ which is why there is no further discussion of penalty in this world. However, Paul is very clear in the NT that those who refused the repent and ask forgiveness for their sin (any sin) and continue in their sin will be judged by God. No where in the Bible is homosexuality approved of or recommended and no where is it discussed as a natural human characteristic.

  • Lilly

    The Loudon family stuck to their beliefs. Why can we not respect that? Why is it that the media portrays the majority of society being against bible believing christians when the majority of this country are bible believing christians? Something is not portrayed as accurate reality here – way to go Loudons for going against the worldly grain!

    • cheeriogirl

      What’s to respect? My heart and attitudes towards others different from me is NOTHING like what John and Gina Loudon displayed on Wife Swap, and I’m quite proud of that. Remember the song we all learned in Sunday School, “They’ll know we are Christians by our love”? I challenge you to show me WHEN John and Gina were loving to the other family? All I saw and heard from the two of them was self righteous bigotry.

      • Ever wonder if that’s what you wanted to hear? I think it is.. clearly by all your arguments.

      • qualityrkc

        She says it constantly Kara. She believes homosexuality is similar to beastiality which is why she compares the 2.

      • I challenge you to show me the entire filming and not just selective edits. Or do you believe in fairy tales and unicorns too?

      • I guess that would prove that she never said that if Gays were given the right to marry then if would open the door to people marrying their dogs (or horses)….. oh wait she DID say that. Maybe it will open the door for people to marry unicorns too.

  • Jmadden

    Tora – you are trying way to hard to perverse the reality of what happened. It is obvious that you have an agenda. You have grossly over-exaggerated every part of the show you commented on. Anyone that watched the show knows that you are a lying idiot. Your opinions are exactly that… opinions that are absurd. You are discredited. Get educated.

    • Katie, how about this one? John 8:44 “You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s
      desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do
      with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he
      speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies” Or this one? Matt 23:27-28″Woe to
      you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like
      whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but
      on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.
      28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to
      people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and
      wickedness.” He didn’t always say flowery things.

      • KatieAnnieOakley

        He also had a real problem with money-changers in Temples – those who would utilize the church in the name of the Lord in order to enrich themselves… as you say, He didn’t always say “flowery things.” Actions speak louder than words. Always.

      • Jake_V

        I agree.

        The left moans about bully’s all the time.

        As soon as they have a podium…they are bullies.

        I guess that also makes them hypocrites….

      • What wickedness did they display? I would sure love to know. Or are your accusations just empty words.

      • qualityrkc

        How can the devil have power over an all powerful creator? Wouldn’t god have had to create the devil? Why did he do that?

      • qualityrkc

        BTW dont bother responding bc I already know the answer. The devil is a literary device. Every story needs a hero and a villain even if it doesnt make any sense given the context of the story.

    • Jake_V

      Not everyone who leans toward the right is a religious zealot.

      Maybe ABC has an agenda? Didn’t think that far into it since it agreed with Obama’s agenda, right?

    • Jake_V

      I agree.

      Pathetic.

      Unfortunately the clout of ABC’s agenda and the lack of integrity from Chris Envy and his ‘women’ was also pathetic.

      I was offended by everything on this episode. I think it shows exactly whats wrong with America.

      People who can’t act like adults (yeah both sides, really), and people who are nothing but FAKE.

      All the way around. All of it.

      I am conservative leaning and nothing like this family.

      Thats they key….not all liberal leaning folks are sleeping with multiple women either.

      ABC sucks for making this show clearly about a political agenda.

    • Keep using those Alinsky tactics.

  • cheeriogirl

    I saw NO fruit from the Loudon parents, but oddly enough much love and joy from the other family , and the Loudon children. Go figure.

    • Editing does a lot for “reality tv” especially as a great way to get your agenda across. Religious families are crazy and the Married couple and their live in GF is normal… Yeah, That’s a real go figure. Another low information voters believing everything they see on tv. Because TV creates normal.

      • thisamericangirl

        Right because there’s no way editing can take anything out of context. I mean if it happened the way the showed it on tv then it must have happened exactly that way.

      • bushphone

        How can saying gay marriage is like marrying a horse be taken out of context?

      • I’m not saying editing was not a factor, but the Loudon’s did provide the footage. If they acted in a truly Christian way then that’s the material the show would have had to work with. FYI, Gina is editing these comments to her favour, a few of my posts have disappeared, sure they were not favourable towards her, but they were not abusive either. I guess only the Loudon’s have to worry about protecting their rights, nice of them to stomp all over my right to free speech.

      • I have done ZERO editing. Comments were edited by staff for reasons outlined above. Obviously, they left the comments that are not profane. This is the first chance I have had to sift through some of the comments. I appreciate those rational people who can talk without acting like middle schoolers. And of course I appreciate all the supportive comments and encouragement from way more than detractors. 🙂

    • The Loudon children did a wonderful job, imho, of being loving and welcoming and also in living their values. Sometimes those things speak much louder than any words, or bible quotes, that anyone can shout.

  • cheeriogirl

    It’s a shame the Loudon family left the show- they missed a huge opportunity to learn about God’s LOVE for ALL people- not just folks the Loudons “approve” of!

    • Jake_V

      There we go…someone finally made an intelligent comment…

      Take note folks….you can be a liberal without being a douche.

      • bushphone

        Well a few are but they are called out as RINO’s by other conservatives.

  • JMB

    Champion the ideals of a country of freedom and then utilize your religion to repress freedom of those that don’t practice your religion. That is the reason conservatives are destined for secondary status.

  • JMB

    This country was founded on the ideals of religious freedom for all, not religious control of all.

  • [email protected]

    The only mistake the Loudons made was to go on wife swap. The liberals set them up and edited the whole show to make them look bad. Be careful what liberals you talk to they for the most part dont care about your opinion because it will interupt thier fun. I still dont understand why they preach TOLERANCE but refuse to practice it.

    Conservative Christian and proud of it.

  • Jake_V

    The same reason Chris Envy the wrestler did it?

    Gun and guns are ingrained into America…references exist on coins from 1796 for crying outloud.

  • Tora Highman

    Jake. Please tell us all how gw bush, in his two terms left this country in better fiscal shape than he got it?

    • Jake_V

      UHM…grow up.

      I am sure your saint Obama will be so much better, considering he has spent more than all the presidents combined…including GW Bush.

      …Keep that in mind when thinking (if you do)…because GW Bush spent more than every other president before him, combined.

      Now that I have made you feel like a moron…it’s ok. GW Bush and Obama both suck.

      Hence…Grow up.

  • bushphone

    I never said that comment is the most important issue. That is not the issue here. If I used an endorsement from someone that said something ignorant like Sen Akin said I would assume people think I agree with it. Noting partisan about that, I would say that of anyone regardless of political affiliation…. But that’s typical of people like you to change the subject when you can’t disagree with the topic being discussed.

    “…you should go off yourself”

    Is that what you tell everyone you disagree with? If you act like like that when you’re not hiding behind a keyboard I bet you either A) get beat up alot B) have a long criminal record C) have multiple restraining orders against you D) all of the above

  • Sheryl

    After watching the Envy “family,” all I can say is, “Cue the theme song from Deliverance!”

    You don’t need to be religious to see what creepy hillbillies these people are. The Envy husband is a total neanderthal,
    with very definite violent tendencies (which I’m quite sure he has
    taken out on his family) and his wife is a submissive little mouse, who
    has so little self-esteem that she actually stands still for her husband having sex with another woman in front of her.
    Absolutely pathetic, and I just wish that she and her husband would
    both be arrested for what they are doing to Ashley (who seems like a
    sweetheart), because, for all intents and purposes, they have turned her
    into a slave, who not only services them both sexually, but takes care
    of their kids, too! These people are trash, and they make my stomach sick (as do those of you who are actually defending them…)

    • bushphone

      What would they be arrested for? Ashley is not a minor, if she were there against her will the show would have been a perfect way out and I didn’t see any bars on the windows. What crime would you charge them with?

      • It’s called Stockholm Syndrome, look it up.

      • bushphone

        I already knew what the term meant despite your condescending remark. If you know something about them abducting her and holding her hostage then you should call the police, rather than just talking about it on the internet.

  • Casey Done

    Amen. To your views and trying to show the world the truth. They wanted to speak their views but not listen to yours. So who really is the closed minded family.

    The only thing i would have done different is to finish the show but your family has to do what the Lord places on your heart.

  • dtofte66

    Leviticus 19:22 “And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering before the LORD for his sin which he hath done: and the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him.”
    So once again Ken you just make up stuff for a pointless point. What an idiot!!!

  • Y’all — we do monitor comments on Dr. Gina’s website. You’ll notice a lot of very vitriolic comments that have remained published. Some have gone over the line, but in an effort to facilitate discussion we’ve so far chosen to allow them to remain on the site.

    • We do have filters in place. Could you let me know where you saw the cuss word? I’ll remove those immediately.

      • bushphone

        Jake_V used a common cuss word in a comment that was on here for a day before it was removed. You can set a filter so any comment containing that word would have never even been published.

      • KatieAnnieOakley

        I had a number of comments on the board, with no cussing whatsoever that were deleted; thank goodness Jake_V kept responding to my comments, so I *do* have a record of them in my email!! It would appear that ANY comment critical of the Louden’s was scrubbed. Ain’t that a hoot?

      • Nikki B

        As I told Tora, we will not tolerate comments that are personal attacks towards Dr. Gina or her family. You can be critical without bashing. If you would like to leave a constructive comment, that disagrees with Dr. Gina, that’s fine. But we will not tolerate name calling or bashing. Webmaster and Moderator…Nicole

      • KatieAnnieOakley

        Not all critiques are personal attacks; nor was I “bashing.” Unlike many others, I actually watched the show, and that was apparent from my responses. “Constructive comments” – ah, now those are in the eye of the beholder!

      • Nikki B

        if you think so….

      • bushphone

        The comment of mine above that was deleted asked how a good christian like Dr Gina leave all those rotten comments up for as long as they were. How is calling someone a good christian a personal attack toward her or her family or bashing?

      • Nikki B

        yep, I did delete it. The comments did get out of hand, because it was easter weekend and I was having family time, and for whatever reason you felt the need to point it out…patronizingly. Again, no need for it. I apologize if you felt it needed to be left up, I didn’t. So blame me.

  • I loved how the Envy’s kept proclaiming they were “normal” like they were trying to convince themselves. They ARE NOT normal! No more normal than a person having sex with animals or pedophiles. They are a very tiny minority and they also set women’s lib back 50 years. 2 women bowing to one mans every whim. Yeah, that’s the liberals version of “feminism”, saying one woman isn’t good enough for a man.

    The Envys sure did a great job brainwashing Ashley though. Now they have a very insecure young slave to raise their kids, and service their sexual needs for them. Meanwhile, Ashley will never have a family of her own. Sad really. Trust me, it’s not love, it is Stockholm Syndrome.

  • It’s fun watching the leftists leaning on their Alinsky manuals. Child-like. Weak.

  • Why would a Christian talk with a Satanist? All Satanists do is all he/she can to make any and every truth a lie, and every lie the truth. They cut anyone off AS SOON as anyone starts to make a true statement, EVEN SCREAM if they feel they need to, to make sure NO TRUTH IS EVER STATED- just like what cnn, msnbc…. and all of the other satanic networks. Again- “Why put yourself in a position where the Satanists can gang up on you and make every truth LOOK like it’s a lie, when in fact THE TRUTH “IS” WHAT WAS BEING STATED!!! (for those that do speak the truth- NOT like what the liberals/progressives/Satanists… do!!!)

    • bushphone

      You gave a perfect description of Fox news especially O’Reilly and Hannity.

      Bill O’Reilly Gets mad and defensive after interviewing a man
      who lost his father in the incident. Yelling “Shut up” and even “Cut His
      Mic” : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACeCbKxF5VA

    • qualityrkc

      Thats right robert. Its you good christian people vs us evil satanists. Good luck winning the “culture war” with a message like that.

  • PS. Also, after hearing your speal here- I have to say “ARE *YOU* SERIOUS???” You think a mother letting her son go to war AND FIGHT FOR THE TRUTH AND THAT WHICH IS RIGHT, IS THE SAME AS YOU SLEEPING WITH ANOTHER MAN THAN YOUR HUSBAND, HAVING SEX WITH HIM (and his girlfriend), AND MAKING YOUR KIDS LIVE UNDER ANOTHER WOMAN’S REIGN AS THEIR MOTHER????”….. You are NO CHRISTIAN!!!! And that is JUST FACT.

  • bushphone

    How is that any of your business? You sure have a huge interest in the sex lives of others. I guess its human nature to want to know a juicy tidbit or two but you seem obsessed to the point I question if you’d peep through someones bedroom window if you dont get the answers you demand. Do you you always ask people you don’t know for intricate details like that about their sex life?

  • WHY ARE MY COMMENTS BEING DELETED. FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH…..SOMETHING GINA IS TRAMPLING ALL OVER. ERASE THIS ONE TOO. I AM PERSISTANT.

  • WHY ARE MY COMMENTS BEING DELETED. FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH…..SOMETHING GINA IS TRAMPLING ALL OVER. ERASE THIS ONE TOO. I AM PERSISTANT.

  • Why are my comments being deleted? Fight for your right to free
    speech…..Something Gina is trampling all over. Erase this one too.
    I am persistent.

    • bushphone

      You do not have free speech here. Its her website. You need to go back to school and learn what rights the U.S. Constitution gives you. I disagree with Gina but you make the other side look bad.

      • All I was trying to point out is how Gina was ‘editing’ the responses on this site,
        something she was using as the excuse as to why she sounded so ridiculous on the show. This is not a site where I have to register therefore the ‘public’ postings only need to not be disrespectful or abusive. If she is a true supporter of her ‘rights’ then she should be respectful of others rights as well. If I make the other side ‘look bad’ then why are the deleted posts all of a sudden visible again?

      • Nikki B

        Don, we weren’t editing the responses on the site, we were removing the ones that were bashing the Loudons and used bad language in one form or another. And to bushphone’s point, this is Dr. Gina’s personal page and we do have a policy regarding postings. And as I have told others, if you have something constructive to say, then we will leave it up, but many of the comments that were deleted were not constructive, they were hateful and I won’t tolerate that…period.

      • bushphone

        Well you think you have rights you do not have. As the owner of this website she can allow or revoke the privilege to anyone who comments for any reason. The internet is not public property where anyone can do what they want on sites owned by others. Whether or not you have to register is irrelevant. If you said her removing comments is uncivil and cowardly I would agree but when you use words like “free speech” and “rights” in this context you are abusing the Constitution.

      • Nikki B

        Bushphone you are definitely a conundrum, in one sentence you speak the truth, only to bring on a backhanded insult…i.e. uncivil and cowardly.

        So you believe that we should leave up the comments that were belligerently hateful towards Dr. Gina and her family? That its okay, to leave that kind of hate up on her website? In fact Don made a point that is was Un-Christian like for us to leave up comments like that because of the children? I even deleted the comments that were hateful and spiteful towards others as well, not just Dr. Gina and her family.

        I don’t think its cowardly at all that I removed many of those hateful comments. NO ONE and nobody deserves that kind of abuse no where. I don’t agree when conservatives do it, nor do I agree when the lefties do it. I don’t agree with bullying..period.

        So no…we are not cowardly, nor is it uncivil. It is my right and responsibility to establish boundaries on the rhetoric of this blog and I won’t tolerate abusive, hateful, disrespectful comments no matter who they are towards.

      • bushphone

        Not all of the comments removed were hateful and personal attacks. For example one was constructively criticizing her for not going to the round table. When you are a political activist and put your family on a reality to promote yourself and radio show you open yourself to praise as well as criticism. I would think it would make her look better if she and her people defended her position and not silence constructive criticism just because she can.

      • Nikki B

        I have gone through about all the deleted comments and trust me there aren’t any that are constructive about Dr. Gina not going back to the round table.

        And I have never once said we weren’t open to criticism, but it had to be constructive and they weren’t. Name calling is not constructive, nor is the many other terms that people have used regarding the show and the family.

        And if you listened to her show last week, she did defend her position on Wife Swap, however she cannot say why the roundtable didn’t happen because of contractual terms.

  • [Hm, my post from last week disappeared. Here it is again:]

    Dr. Gina says “You can’t very well call yourself a culture warrior and then be afraid to engage in the battle.” Verily, the battle of Wife Swap was one for the minstrels!~

    ♫ Dr. Gina bravely ran away,
    bravely ran away away.

    ♫ When darkness reared its ugly head,
    she bravely turned her tail and fled.
    Yes, Dr. Gina turned about,
    and valiantly, she chickened out.
    Bravely taking to her feet,
    she beat a very brave retreat.

    ♫ A brave retreat by brave Doc Gina! ♫

  • Jake_V

    That makes you short sighted. You can’t think past the media/tv screen.

    I can’t reference the comment above as it was apparently deleted?

    I don’t tell everyone I disagree with that, just pompous asses like yourself I consider to be ruining this great nation.

    That being said…I am self employed and WORK to EARN money for a living and PAY TAXES. So no…I am not a criminal, have restraining orders or get beat up a lot.

    Nice try to change the point inference to not liking the comments. Typical leftist, attack me personally for not going along with the entitlement hand out machine.

  • I only have two questions. Who gives you the right to decide who is worthy to live in America? And who says ‘they just wanted a child with down syndrome so they got one” (not your words verbatim)? If you went there to help your cause, or stand up for your beliefs, you would have seen it all the way throuh.

  • sm

    This family came off horribly. This reaffirmed my understanding of bible thumping tea party . If you would have finished the show and acted compassionately to the other family, you would have done more for your cause. Instead you came off as close minded, political in all decisions and thus were not relatable to anyone with views different from yours. All you accomplished was to keep your tea party friends defending you while alienating everyone else.

    Your children came off better than you. You could learn from them.

  • Spencer Applegate

    I am a liberal and do not practice religion. I do not believe there is any reason for guns to be prevalent in American society. Having said that, I watched the show last night and just have a few observations. I do think that the show portrayed the Loudons in a negative light and was edited in a way that portrayed the poly family, sorry I do not know their names, in a positive manner. In that way, I think that the Loudons were given a raw deal. However, I do want to state that the Loudons are fighting a battle that they are going to lose. The culture of America has been changing for quite a while now and more progressive thoughts are being exuded, specifically with regards to gay marriage. I consider it sad that various stories, proverbs, etc. written approximately 2,000 years ago dictate the minds of so many people. Do not misunderstand me. I think that the Bible has a lot of merit to it, however strict constructionists of the Bible tend to overlook the merits it entails. For example, the Bible condones slavery, however slavery it widely considered to be an injustice. In fact, the Catholic Church did not officially oppose slavery until 1971. The point being is that the Church and Bible consistently lag behind the will of the American people. The Church for thousands of years dictated how people should think and act. Now, the will of the American people, as well as people around the world, is dictating how the Church should think and act. At some point, homosexuals will have a Constitutional right to marriage. It may be five years from now, maybe ten, maybe twenty, but it will happen. This is a generational gap that is closing quickly.

  • juliecorp79

    The Bible also said not to judge lest ye be judged..she judge in front of the whole world and that is a sin. The Bible also said no sin is not greater than the other. Hipacrite

  • J M

    As soon as he pulled out the Bible to quote Leviticus regarding homosexuality with his tattoo sticking out on his arm all I could think of was another Leviticus passage, Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. I think that is very hypocritical, not to mention the malicious intent behind it.

  • qualityrkc

    If what Dr Gina was saying was true about engaging in culture wars then why did her and her family choose not to finish the show? Why didnt they respond when the show tried contacting them before the show even aired? Did she pre-emptively know she was going to be “edited” in a poor light. I hate how the far right always resorts to this line of defense. I call it the Palin defense. People laugh at you for your stupid comments you make then you go and blame “the lamestream media” for simply showing a clip of what you said. Those words came out of your mouth! So interesting that the people who always claim to have the moral high ground because of their narrow religious interpretations are the most petty, judgemental, and dishonest. If they edited you dishonestly why dont you give an actual example instead of crying like a baby.